We're used to industries asking for less regulation,Devin Grosvenor not more. But that's exactly what happened last week when OpenAI CEO Sam Altman testified before Congress. Seated next to Sam Altman was emeritus professor Gary Marcus. Gary is a cognitive scientist warning about the dangers of AI. And he agreed.

Today on the show: how these two men — a corporate titan and a cautious professor — found themselves aligned in pursuit of AI regulation.

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